We want to get out to more details more. developments there in the war in Israel. And of course the broader potential conflict, of course a live picture right there. out of Gaza as well as we continue to follow all of this. new information here on live now from Fox including an air strike at the jabalia refugee. camp there the Battalion, of course, we’re following it her e on live now from Fox, of course. this a tweet from Jonathan schanzer saying Hamas. Is indicating it will release some Ford hostages soon. Just as Ibrahim bre. head of Hamas Jubilee Battalion reported to be killed by the IDF. He was involved in the planning and execution. of the terrorist attack back on the seventh there and we want to continue here on live now from Fox we want to bring in right now the vice president there for the foundation for defense of democracies Jonathan Sandra. Thank you so much for joining us here on live now from Fox. What do we make of this? latest are striking? how important of a figure is eted IDF take out. Well, we can’t really say for certain how important he is. He’s not top 10. You might say he’s top 25. Let’s say of the most Wanted figures. within the Hamas. organization that the Israelis are. stocking. I think he was just you happen to be in the line of fire. I guess or maybe they decided to take out some Underground. infrastructure. this area. Jabalia. as it’s known. it’s really they call it a refugee camp. It’s not it’s hot. It’s densely populated. but most people probably know. there are not many refugees left. at this point. we’re talking about the descendants of refugees people who are still claiming to be refugees. Nevertheless. It’s a densely packed area Urban Warfare. and the I sraelis and taken out what appears to be at significant. Underground. Target. which is a large part of what’s going on right now in that. War there’s a whole Underground infrastructure that is posing a severe threat to the Israeli troops as there are on the ground. So I think we’re going to see more of that. large bombs they take out whatever is lurking beneath. Yeah, that is a very very interesting because I think a lot of the initial reports talked about the refugee camp as well in the IDF putting this on social media as well saying the IDF operating taking out this terrorist strongholds stronghold use for training. execution of terrorism activities. I do want to put with some more tweets here from Troy gangstas. Well because obviously this felt similar to that hospital air strike as well. where the Palestinians in Gaza. officials coming out with it saying more many Palestinian civilians. kveld at t he jabalia camp in Northern Gaza the Palestinian Source claims multiple Israeli strikes targeted the area. they’re checking with information. There’s a statement from the military as well to says the Israeli Defense Force led by them have seized control of the Hamas military stronghold in Western. Of course you mentioned maybe not a lot of refugees. still. in that. location. is maybe the information that comes out? initially how important is that Becau se of course you talk about air strike by Israel? you talk about refugees of course civilians. how it may be important is the information kind of War right now amongst especially something like Now, it’s huge. I mean the amount of disinformation. that’s flying around. of disinformation that’s really notable. you know a few things I think. you know in order to try to understand and digest this story number one. the Israelis have asked for al l. civilians to clear out of the northern Gaza Strip Jabalia. is in the northern Gaza Strip. and so when the Israelis go in and are either fighting on the ground hand-to-hand really kind of face to face. It’s bourbon combat, Urban Warfare. you know these. most of them at this point most of the people that they are. encountering. are going to be. militants or people that are likely associated with Hamas That’s not to say that there aren’t civ ilian casualties. I’m sure there are and of course we don’t want to see any of them. but I would say that the Israelis have asked all civilians to clear out to the extent that that’s possible so that there’s that that’s number one. number two. You know the sheer number of the the actual number of refugees. It’s almost negligible. I mean, I think there’s maybe ten thousand and all of the Gaza Strip right now. maybe 20 It’s a hard thing to say, bu t these would be the elderly people from the 1948 War. We’re not talking about now, There are people who are literally trying to get out of the way of this war. one could call them refugees, but the camp itself was not one not in real terms. now the bombing itself. are interesting reports about how the Israelis hit a Target at then after that. the ground began to Crater. as a result of the underground infrastructure that we talked about. and again a l ot of this It’s fog of War we just don’t know the facts we’re dealing with Snippets of information. what we hear out of the Israelis what we hear out of Hamas. for their course not likely to be terribly honest. but again as you suggest the disinformation ation the amount of information flying around that is designed deliberately to obfuscate. It’s a huge part of what I have to sift through. every day. Yeah. It’s very difficult to see because be cause the initial report comes out and that’s what people generally run with but of course the fog of War like you said a lot of more information coming out. as they come I do want to give you out to a different development there talking about who the end of course now houthi the group their the rebel group from Yemen claiming a surface-to-surface surface-to-surface middle. targeting Israel as well. Give me a kind of a breakdown who is houthi and maybe why was this development? And why did they claim it today? Okay, so this this it’s actually kind of a wild story. so really since around. 2015. maybe even a little bit earlier. There’s a group that’s been based in Yemen. Yemen has has been dealing with a civil war since the outbreak of the Arab Spring. this group has conquered large chunks of Yemen. They are. at this point almost fully aligned with Iran much like Hamas is much like hizb allah is except Iran is used the this houthi group primarily to Target Saudi Arabia. They’ve been carrying out attacks in the Persian Gulf. again some of Iran’s enemies there. and so just the quick background on this is bright has Donald Trump was leaving office in 2020. He added them. to the the u.s. Terrorism list as soon as the by the ministration came in they removed the houthis. from the terrorism list. and it was kind of a finger in the eye that the Saudis and it was I think question the whole thing was really not a terrific episode in American foreign policy. Not a lot of consistency You can put it that way. Anyway, the houthis have continued to engage in all manner of violent activity. and they always one of their their slogans is death to America death to Israel death to the Jews This is what they say at every rally. so you get a sense of who they are and what their values are . so to speak. anyway, so what the fast forward to today? and they fired a long-range missile? at Israel these Raley’s intercepted it with the arrow defense system. This is a system joint. That was jointly developed. with the United States. It’s a real asset. for Israel and for the u.s. I think. and then the houthis houthis claimed responsibility. building and I’ve actually since declared war. against Israel the likelihood of seeing a ton of missiles. Rockets out of Yemen. it slow. but it is interesting, right now that the Iran appears to have activated. and it’s really important to note this because obviously what watching in Gaza. There’s a full-blown in Gaza. all-out War happening in Gaza right now. but then you’ve got Rockets out of Lebanon. from Hezbollah you got Rockets out of Syria. targeting us. bases You got Rockets out of a rock targeting us bases You got Rockets out of Yemen targe ting Israel and you’ve got ongoing unrest in the West Bank. what Iran has done just to be crystal clear. it is started a regional War. now now there is They’re still ways to contain that war to keep it only in the Gaza Strip while absorbing. fire from all these other places. but Iran is very much trying to activate all of its proxies and all of its allies across the region to try to put Israel. in a position where it can’t be defended. I don’t think it’s going to happen. Obviously the u.s. Is there and the Israelis have quite a bit. left in the tank in terms of the fight in front of them, but you get a sense of the strategy. that that Iran has tried to adopt here. Yeah. It’s a a lot of complicated fashion. I think you explained it. very well there because there’s Hamas is balla now houthi as well getting involved in like you mentioned I think a big point of this is potentia lly not now. be a part of that terrorist group as well. And of course we did see US forces maybe go after. a proxy in Syria. potentially, could they houthi the placed back on the terrorist group And would that may be the u.s. To maybe containing that? aspect of this larger regional conflict as well as that a possibility. Look, it’s possibility. But let me put it in maybe a slightly different way. It’s a possibility u.s. Designates the the houthi s started they were on the cusp of a possible. normalization deal with Israel. and it would be brokered by the United States and it was really designed to signify a new. US lead. Regional order in the Middle East. if the u.s. Decides to designate the houthis again this could be a significant move. to let’s say bury the hatchet with the Saudis as we all know the Saudis and the vitamins. Stration have not been getting along. famously. but I thin ow does Saudi Arabia both geographically and politically factor into what is happening with the houthis? well the Saudis have been the number one target. There was a deal reached earlier this year between a and Saudi Arabia. during which both sides. agreed to respect the others pegged. territorial integrity. and I think that was really a sign that the houthis were going to be off limits so long as the Saudis didn’t try to undermine the regi right things can deteriorate rapidly. So I think having the Saudis in the u.s. Right now looking for assurances from the US. Is very important? I think there’s something else that’s important to note here that you know, the the Saudis have been a little ambivalent about the US for some time now, not sure that the u.s. Is the superpower that it once was not sure that the us would have Saudis back in the event of a conflict. when you look rom scratch. I’m hoping that that’s where we are right now. I think it would be good for the United States it would be good for the security of the region. it would be good for the oil economy that we are always concerned about. and it would be good for normalization between Saudi Arabia and Israel, who are really still too. of our most important. allies in the Middle East It will be really important to keep them together and on side and wi reakdown of what is because this is potentially one of the first times it was used. Correct. I think it’s been used Maybe you know, I think twice three times. something like that since the Israelis have had there not been a lot of long range threats. but what’s important here? Is that the with the help of the United? States? We have seen actually there three systems that the Israelis have we have Iron Dome which everybody hears about this the short- ter. and then you’ve got the long range system and this system has just shown you what would happen if Iran tries. to start lobbing Rockets at Israel and the fact that this integrated three layer system. seems to be working. is I think has to be a good sign to Israelis. but also to the United States because this is technology that they will have access to the US. military will and already has started looking at what the Israelis bring to cquisitions. if everything goes the right way. All right, that’ll be very interesting. Thank you for breaking it all down and very complicated story to say the least with these latest developments that coming in minute-by-minute hour-by-hour. you down very well. Jonathan schanzer. Thank you so much for joining us here on live now from Fox is always great to hear from you. anytime. All right. Thank”Hamas commander Ibrahim Bre, involved in planning and executing a terrorist attack on the seventh, reported killed by the IDF.A tweet from Jonathan Schanzer suggests Hamas may release hostages soon in response to the IDF action.The IDF conducts an airstrike on Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza, targeting an underground infrastructure posing a threat to Israeli troops.Houthi rebels from Yemen claim responsibility for firing a surface-to-surface missile at Israel, signaling potential involvement in the regional conflict.The U.S. considers designating the Houthi rebels as a terrorist group, complicating regional dynamics and potentially affecting relations with Saudi Arabia.
